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	<title>Comments on: Who should I be angry with?</title>
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		<title>By: Scaryduck</title>
		<link>http://www.iamlivid.com/2008/02/28/who-should-i-be-angry-with/comment-page-1/#comment-21038</link>
		<dc:creator>Scaryduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7dayshop.com - Based in the Channel Islands, so dirt cheap and VAT-free

That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7dayshop.com &#8211; Based in the Channel Islands, so dirt cheap and VAT-free</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissaria</title>
		<link>http://www.iamlivid.com/2008/02/28/who-should-i-be-angry-with/comment-page-1/#comment-21032</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP ink is more expensive per ml than some designer perfumes.  I know ths because we run an HP5000 and an HP5500 which take 6 cartidges at about £125 a pop.  They are very, very talented at making their machines look like great deals, but screwing you on the accessories.  And don&#039;t even think about using non-branded if you value your warranty.  Bastards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP ink is more expensive per ml than some designer perfumes.  I know ths because we run an HP5000 and an HP5500 which take 6 cartidges at about £125 a pop.  They are very, very talented at making their machines look like great deals, but screwing you on the accessories.  And don&#8217;t even think about using non-branded if you value your warranty.  Bastards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to stick up for Staples on this one, being in IT Support. 

In past years, most standard inkjet printers that you bought did normally come with only around 30% ink supplied. This was to cut costs by the manufacturer, not something shifty the retailer had done. 

MFD Printers may come with 100% ink but, again, it depends on the manufacturer. HP, on the other hand, normally sell ALL their printers now with FULL ink. On the other hand, they don&#039;t say on the boxes that it&#039;s full ink, so there&#039;s no way of knowing either way.

So Staples may have just not been up on their products or just following an old script. 

Recently purchased a HP MFD in Australia, had exactly the same script thrown at me, but a senior staff member corrected the monkeys and told them the HPs now come with full ink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to stick up for Staples on this one, being in IT Support. </p>
<p>In past years, most standard inkjet printers that you bought did normally come with only around 30% ink supplied. This was to cut costs by the manufacturer, not something shifty the retailer had done. </p>
<p>MFD Printers may come with 100% ink but, again, it depends on the manufacturer. HP, on the other hand, normally sell ALL their printers now with FULL ink. On the other hand, they don&#8217;t say on the boxes that it&#8217;s full ink, so there&#8217;s no way of knowing either way.</p>
<p>So Staples may have just not been up on their products or just following an old script. </p>
<p>Recently purchased a HP MFD in Australia, had exactly the same script thrown at me, but a senior staff member corrected the monkeys and told them the HPs now come with full ink.</p>
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		<title>By: Ldbug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ldbug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those people at Staples always seemed shady to me...i applaud your investigative nature!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those people at Staples always seemed shady to me&#8230;i applaud your investigative nature!</p>
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		<title>By: BBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got sick and tired of ink jet printers and having them fuck up and having to always ink for them. 

So I went to Staples here and bought an HP 1000 Laserjet printer that just prints in black. They told me the same as they told you, that the toner cartridge wouldn&#039;t last long, but I didn&#039;t buy another one. 

Set it up and put the settings on economy mode as all I print is text for the most part and it still reads well, I&#039;ve printed well over a thousand pages and it&#039;s still on that first cartridge. I bought it on 9/8/2003 and haven&#039;t paid a penny more for all my printing since. 

It&#039;s a damn fine machine, I&#039;ll never buy another fucking ink jet.

Oh, and if I want to steal something off of your blog you can bet your butt that I will. Like me you have not had an original thought in a long time, you&#039;ve borrowed them from others. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got sick and tired of ink jet printers and having them fuck up and having to always ink for them. </p>
<p>So I went to Staples here and bought an HP 1000 Laserjet printer that just prints in black. They told me the same as they told you, that the toner cartridge wouldn&#8217;t last long, but I didn&#8217;t buy another one. </p>
<p>Set it up and put the settings on economy mode as all I print is text for the most part and it still reads well, I&#8217;ve printed well over a thousand pages and it&#8217;s still on that first cartridge. I bought it on 9/8/2003 and haven&#8217;t paid a penny more for all my printing since. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a damn fine machine, I&#8217;ll never buy another fucking ink jet.</p>
<p>Oh, and if I want to steal something off of your blog you can bet your butt that I will. Like me you have not had an original thought in a long time, you&#8217;ve borrowed them from others. <img src='http://www.iamlivid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ubermouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubermouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  bought  a  box of 12 ink cartridges for my epson prinnter for  12 lb.
That&#039;s  a pound each. From EBay and they had all brands.
Most printers do only give you a bit with the printer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  bought  a  box of 12 ink cartridges for my epson prinnter for  12 lb.<br />
That&#8217;s  a pound each. From EBay and they had all brands.<br />
Most printers do only give you a bit with the printer.</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend&#039;s mum went to Staples the other day to buy a new ink cartridge and they did a full sales pitch for the larger size of same cartridge - insisting it was much better value and she&#039;d be a fool not to etc etc. Practically forced it on the poor woman. Only problem is that with the large black cartridge you can&#039;t fit a colour one in as well so it&#039;s completely bloody useless. 

She&#039;s a nice trusting lady though - can&#039;t understand how they conned you Angry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend&#8217;s mum went to Staples the other day to buy a new ink cartridge and they did a full sales pitch for the larger size of same cartridge &#8211; insisting it was much better value and she&#8217;d be a fool not to etc etc. Practically forced it on the poor woman. Only problem is that with the large black cartridge you can&#8217;t fit a colour one in as well so it&#8217;s completely bloody useless. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s a nice trusting lady though &#8211; can&#8217;t understand how they conned you Angry!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I also bought a printer from Staples, and they told me the same story. Now 6 weeks later the original cartridge is still printing just fine. The funny thing is that I bought it in Davie Florida good old USA so it seems to be a world wide scam (May be that the ink cost $80 and the printer cost $70 was another reason that stopped me buying another cartridge)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I also bought a printer from Staples, and they told me the same story. Now 6 weeks later the original cartridge is still printing just fine. The funny thing is that I bought it in Davie Florida good old USA so it seems to be a world wide scam (May be that the ink cost $80 and the printer cost $70 was another reason that stopped me buying another cartridge)</p>
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		<title>By: xl</title>
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		<dc:creator>xl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the old &quot;Would you like fries with that?&quot; marketing scheme run amok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the old &#8220;Would you like fries with that?&#8221; marketing scheme run amok.</p>
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		<title>By: gnarlyswine</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnarlyswine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im afraid he was kinda telling a mangled version of the truth - the cartridges that come with the printers arent 20% full but they usually only have a fraction of the capacity of a proper one so they do run out by the time they have printed 2 or 3 pages. Its HP that should get a visit with a baseball bat full of nails and a taser tied to it (no - not the sauce manufacturer. Its why they often give free printers away with new PCs as well - so they chain you to buying their refills - the c***s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im afraid he was kinda telling a mangled version of the truth &#8211; the cartridges that come with the printers arent 20% full but they usually only have a fraction of the capacity of a proper one so they do run out by the time they have printed 2 or 3 pages. Its HP that should get a visit with a baseball bat full of nails and a taser tied to it (no &#8211; not the sauce manufacturer. Its why they often give free printers away with new PCs as well &#8211; so they chain you to buying their refills &#8211; the c***s</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh. I love a good complaint letter. Knowing Staples, the theiving bastards who ticketed my car for £40 when I stayed in their carpark for too long, it&#039;s just another way of scamming some money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh. I love a good complaint letter. Knowing Staples, the theiving bastards who ticketed my car for £40 when I stayed in their carpark for too long, it&#8217;s just another way of scamming some money.</p>
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		<title>By: GH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should be angry with yourself Mr A. for being so stupid as to believe a salescreep. Some printers do come with a cartridge that will be less full than a store bought one, but you&#039;ll still get a lot of use out of them.

Go on, smack yourself for being a muppet. Then go find the spotty oik who lied to you and introduce him to the other face of &quot;customer relations&quot; i.e. a boot up the jacksie.

GH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be angry with yourself Mr A. for being so stupid as to believe a salescreep. Some printers do come with a cartridge that will be less full than a store bought one, but you&#8217;ll still get a lot of use out of them.</p>
<p>Go on, smack yourself for being a muppet. Then go find the spotty oik who lied to you and introduce him to the other face of &#8220;customer relations&#8221; i.e. a boot up the jacksie.</p>
<p>GH</p>
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		<title>By: Jaggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first mistake was being more gullible than Mr Gully Gullible from Gullibleton.

Second mistake was not to buy an Epson. You can then buy compatible cartridges at £22 for 12. Yes twelve.

I used to work at the Epson manufacturing plant in Telford, and they changed production of their printers to the Phillipines where labour is cheap and changed the entire plant over to Ink Cartridge Manufacturing because they can make a cartridge for about 27p each and sell it as a genuine Epson cartridge for £27. Bargain. 

But then, you buy Macs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first mistake was being more gullible than Mr Gully Gullible from Gullibleton.</p>
<p>Second mistake was not to buy an Epson. You can then buy compatible cartridges at £22 for 12. Yes twelve.</p>
<p>I used to work at the Epson manufacturing plant in Telford, and they changed production of their printers to the Phillipines where labour is cheap and changed the entire plant over to Ink Cartridge Manufacturing because they can make a cartridge for about 27p each and sell it as a genuine Epson cartridge for £27. Bargain. </p>
<p>But then, you buy Macs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kerri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think someone was just trying to up their commission....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think someone was just trying to up their commission&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Equine Pimp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Equine Pimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just put it down to experience.

You&#039;re a fuckwit, you got scammed!

Have you also got payment protection on your loan, mobile phone insurance (both from the company that sold you each) and 27 bars of half price Dairy Milk from WH Smith? (all sold in a &quot;honest guv, you need this, I&#039;m doing you a favour&quot; type of way)

Fair play to the power of the cross sale technique</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just put it down to experience.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a fuckwit, you got scammed!</p>
<p>Have you also got payment protection on your loan, mobile phone insurance (both from the company that sold you each) and 27 bars of half price Dairy Milk from WH Smith? (all sold in a &#8220;honest guv, you need this, I&#8217;m doing you a favour&#8221; type of way)</p>
<p>Fair play to the power of the cross sale technique</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make sure the letters are smudged and start to fade out half way down the page (photoshop if necessary) so you can complain about the quality of the printers too.

Or give them a bit of a laugh and use your old dot matrix.  That will give it pride of place the museum, along with letters written in Crayola or on tablets of stone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make sure the letters are smudged and start to fade out half way down the page (photoshop if necessary) so you can complain about the quality of the printers too.</p>
<p>Or give them a bit of a laugh and use your old dot matrix.  That will give it pride of place the museum, along with letters written in Crayola or on tablets of stone.</p>
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		<title>By: Glammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And make sure you get a grovelling apology from a manager. As we speak, they&#039;re giving some poor contractor a hard time just because they&#039;ve got a manager title. Corporate fuckers are all the same. Fuckers. And they&#039;d be driving a taxi if they weren&#039;t corporate fuckers ripping people off with too much ink. Ask to speak to the Ink Manager, or the Cartridge Coordinating Supervisor, or a Corporate Fucker With a Title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And make sure you get a grovelling apology from a manager. As we speak, they&#8217;re giving some poor contractor a hard time just because they&#8217;ve got a manager title. Corporate fuckers are all the same. Fuckers. And they&#8217;d be driving a taxi if they weren&#8217;t corporate fuckers ripping people off with too much ink. Ask to speak to the Ink Manager, or the Cartridge Coordinating Supervisor, or a Corporate Fucker With a Title.</p>
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		<title>By: CodPast</title>
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		<dc:creator>CodPast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What keef said. Cartridge world = half price &amp; they&#039;ll deliver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What keef said. Cartridge world = half price &amp; they&#8217;ll deliver.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told the same thing when I bought my printer, I didn&#039;t buy the extra ink though, thankfullly. I get my cartridges from http://www.stinkyinkshop.co.uk. It&#039;s a fair bit cheaper there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told the same thing when I bought my printer, I didn&#8217;t buy the extra ink though, thankfullly. I get my cartridges from <a href="http://www.stinkyinkshop.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.stinkyinkshop.co.uk</a>. It&#8217;s a fair bit cheaper there.</p>
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		<title>By: StokeySiren</title>
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		<dc:creator>StokeySiren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey who knew printers and ink could cause so much trouble and sadness in the cosmos!</description>
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